MP tells school protesters 'you're right'

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Birmingham LGBT row: MP tells school protesters 'you're right'

Roger Godsiff previously admitted he had not read the books he said were not"age-appropriate"

Parents started to gather at the gates over concerns children were"too young" to learn about LGBT relationships. They also said the lessons contradicted Islam. Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, said he would be tabling a formal complaint to the party about Mr Godsiff."One of my own Labour colleagues stood with people who have peddled hatred and bigotry on school gates, intimidating pupils, teachers and parents."

 

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Right......by protesting against a legal education policy ?

Stop confusing the kids. I know an LGBT couple whose kids were bullied by their friends because those kids told their friends they were born of 2 men.

So, to clarify. Noone is being taught about sexuality LGBT or otherwise and noone is being brainwashed to conform to any idea or principle. The idea of diversity is being explained, in simple terms, to school age children. I'm eager to hear actual reasons why this is bad.

Oh please leave innocent children out of it. Being an LGBT is a choice. It has nothing to with science.

Sex eduction is the responsibility of parents not teachers. There are no gaps in the curriculum as they are full of normal educational lessons.

Sack him the homophobe that he is no vote is worth this vileness.

Damn right he's right.

Recall him now Recall

So Roger godsiff is not allowed to have dissidenting view on this subject. Will be forced into silience or whipped into line! So policy supported by both main parties! So to where do descending voices turn?

BBCPolitics Why has this news item disappeared from the BBC News Website?, scared of upsetting people or don't want others to know about MP incompetence?

Why is there a multi tier approach in uk as to who can express opinion on such matters. Is there not free speech for all? Pardon ignorance not aware of current rule etc.

BBCPolitics I agree with teaching it but not until p6 onwards. But if this is about religion then culture wins. When in Rome and all that.

I see that the supposedly gay penguin dumped his partner for a female! Will they add an addendum...

Alternative thinking.

If they dont like our education or law.....

BBCPolitics My heart goes out to the children standing with the protesters; what is all of this teaching them?

BBCPolitics Labour Party pandering to the 3 million + Muslim vote and their anti Jewish feelings.

Fkn idiot

Then he's as bigoted as they are and at the next election needs consigning to the dustbin of history

Labour. What else do you expect. They court the hardline Islamists vote

BBCPolitics So Christian/Muslim must keep their mouths shut! Ms Rayner said she has reported the comments to chief whip Nick Brown. 'This might be the personal views of Mr Roger Godsiff but they do not represent the Labour Party and are discriminatory and irresponsible,'

BBCPolitics 😤😤🙏🏾

I honestly don’t think there is such a thing as free speech .Everybody has to think the same in this country. God help anyone who is brave enough to voice what they actually think.

He has his opinion and You May disagree with him,but I support his democratic right to say it. Admire him for sticking his head above the parapet. Need to build social consensus on this,not impose it.

BBCPolitics Has RogerGodsiff actually bothered to read the No Outsiders materials yet? When he took this position on VictoriaLIVE he confessed he was literally judging a book by its cover...

Don't children have a life anymore do they have to be politically correct the Labour party causes and fuels this rubbish

This man was a disgrace on VictoriaLIVE so am not surprised he is siding with bigots.

Protect my seat at any cost 🤔

No matter how 'just' a cause might be, many of said kids have only just learned how to clean their own backsides. Mental maturity usually clicks in at roughly age 22. Who's encouraging them to act like older idiots; better to teach about political procedures already available.

too young to start the complex case of LGBT? might have a point, any chance of a little bit of common sense taking over, just for once-let's start a new trend, we could do with it

What a disgrace Labour have become.

PLEASE listen to the measured words of nazirafzal who actually has been to the school after he was asked to mediate there. You can find them on his website,

Its an obessessive liberal agenda and my 10 year old daughter understands there are gay people in the world from her parents. I don't see the need for a head teacher to push their agenda on very young children. There should be an minimum age restriction to keep their innocence.

Disgraceful, this is backwards thinking. We’re not all the same, families are but all the same, what’s wrong with letting our kids know this? Mine are 28 and 25 now, they were told about differences from a young age. They have grown into amiable, tolerant adults

BBCPolitics WTF is happening to the Labour party?

The MP is entitled to his own opinion, just like everyone else. LGBT awareness should be carefully and slowly introduced. It's too dangerous to impose on society what many finds unnatural. Let's have a compassionate national debate on this matter, for the sake of LGBT people.

This is not about LGBT it is about the kind of society we want our children to grow up in a tolerant humanitarian society, not one built on hatred .If we cannot teach our children that people are individuals and all different then what hope for us. Shame on you !!!

Thank You

So it’s NOT okay to teach our children that different relationships exist but it Is okay to teach them to give in to twisted outdated religious bigotry peddled by a minority that wants to make the world less equal and less tolerant 👏👏👏👏

Backhander

Got to keep that Muslim vote coming in, hey Labour?

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. If they don’t want their children to take part in LGBT lessons why can’t they be excluded from that class but they can’t dictate school policy/culture. I welcome LGBT awareness and any enlightenment, it’s what makes us better human beings.

Kept that under your hat what ever next, children forbiden to draw or see rainbows in case that makes them LGBT. Teaching and knowledge are one of the gifts we give children it's better we trust their instincts to deal with the facts we give them than denigh them this gift.

Still shocked that anybody believes if you teach kids about same sex couples or they grow up in same sex home they will be ‘more likely’ to become gay or transgender 🤔 its a biological thing. Plus when PC fights against PC respect of belief who wins?

When in Rome

He is a Labour MP, he would say that because Labour rely on the Muslim vote

He wants their votes

This is the nonsense that we interested in teaching kids, leave kids to be kids, my kid doesn’t need to know your sexual preferences

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Scum only looking after himself an bowing down to his medieval backward thinking voters

Someone who needs to be voted out.

These, mostly Muslim, protestors are disgusting hypocrites. They moan about the school trying to “force” this onto their children, yet they indoctrinate their children from birth with their religious BS, where are the attention seeking fuc... I mean MPs defending these children.

Send him on a course!! In fact send them all on a course!!!☘️☘️☘️☘️

Of course they are right

1984 georgeorwell

Who in charge of uk Laws in the Uk 🇬🇧 we respect gays and Lesbians so if you don’t like jog on the people of this great country will never be Ruled by people from other country’s telling us what is Wright or wrong we don’t do in other country’s, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

No they aren’t. And neither are you, oh man of the disturbing eyebrow and scowl of barely concealed contempt. I suppose at least you have a face which fits the bigotry. It is a face which states, if only I was born earlier I could beat kittens without the risk of cctv

Oh and he just happens to be a Labour Mp must be after more muslim votes ...

In Scotland they are trying to get homosexuality introduced into Maths. Literally an LGBT rally for dividing numbers. Mad!

BBCPolitics Seriously LGBT at primary school how can anyone who still believe in cooties know what thier sexual orientation is let kids be kids ffs

LGBTQ groups don't like being told how to think but they tell other groups how to think. all rights reserved

BBCPolitics They ARE right. Parents should be responsible for such teaching, it is not for schools or teachers to decide, regardless of govt plans. This is plain wrong. Schools are for teaching not brainwashing and indoctrinating young children.

Yes a many many Christians believe it too

In a free world it is possible to have different opinions and perspectives but obviously not if you think there is only one right answer. I think does not mean I know or I am right and anybody who disagrees is mad or bad. (We all make that mistake).

Clearly what we need is a time machine so he could have benefited from these lessons at school x

Start thinking outside Party lies & U get thrown 2 the wolves It's not about the school or LGBT - it's about unlawful attempts 2 silence differing views. 'A High Court injunction is in place banning protests, which have been going on for months, outside the school.' IanRCrane

He's right it's up to the parents if they don't want their children to be taught this info then they should be. But in today's world no one can disagree in anyway with LGBT agend or your classed as homophobic.

It’s not teaching... its indoctrination

He’s wrong. Early education about difference matters. 🏳️‍🌈

BBCPolitics Anti-LGBT the new anti-Semitism for Labour?

It would be easier for everyone if the lesson plans and scheme of work for this subject were published. I think people are very confused about this. I am of the understanding it’s all about relationships and how families can be different.

Birmingham is in a deep intergration trench and MPs are ignoring the racial issues cuz they want to be voted again...politics!!

BBCPolitics Let’s cut the bs, people against these lessons believe that the concept of dad-dad mum-mum isn’t right and some feel strongly against that, call it homophobia or whatever it’s a fact, so either fight those people or let parents opt out of lessons that imply mum-mum-dad-dad is ok.

It’s important that we don’t let this thread become a dog whistle to Islamophobic bigots. If anything, Roger’s comments prove that it is male, straight white Christians who are fuelling this division. Criticise them instead and leave Muslims alone. LoveAll

Why hasn’t he read these books yet or been in to sit on a lesson in school to carry out research?

Two lesbians were assualted on a bus this week. They were targeted and assaulted because they were homosexual. These classes that teach tolerance are needed

Then he needs to step down as an MP he needs to move with the times!

William Shakespeare showed in Othello & The Merchant of Venice that mixing races, cultures and religions will cause tragedies. It is something we can acknowledge but do nothing about. It is economic needs that keep the peace in general.

The media have a duty to describe this “mild” program each time they report. Awareness that we are all individuals and need to see one another as such is important. Taking people as you find them and not basing judgment on perceived group identities. Unless Islamic supremacists

As well as moron agreeing with the protests, how about this sexist MP describing the protesters as men. 'The city council's deputy leader Brigid Jones also tweeted: 'How dare you tell men whose homophobic protests were so threatening and disruptive that they had...

When two sets of identity politics card players go into battle. Sit back, put your feet up, and get the crisps out.

Self serving coward..... he needs the Muslim vote

Deselect him as mp

I'm not a Muslim and I completely agree it's inappropriate.

Pandering to homophobes, Jezza, Watson & the rest won’t say a word, guaranteed, Labour is lost.

Senile old bell. Bound to be some sort of godbotherer himself.

When did teaching children to become respectful of all humans become a bad thing? My heart breaks for society

MP sides with LGBT community - the Left accuses him of Islamaphobia MP sides with the parents - the Left accuses him of homophobia The Left are really struggling with which side of this argument to support, because both sides cannot be right, so which one is in the wrong?

Did you not know you're not allowed to say things like that, look at the Twitter storm you've created. But you're right.

Does anyone know how this all got started ? Did the school state they were teaching lgbtwftl stuff to children in schools ? i missed the origins of the strory

BBCPolitics He must be as bad as them then because I think it is rediculous and any child who has not attended school due to this unneccesary protest, their patrents should be fined. This is not a sex lesson only educating the children that some have two Mummies or two Daddies. Grow up!!!

Not to bring their culture here they’re not. When in Rome etc etc or clear off.

Must b a lot of votes there somewhere,know let me think🤔🤔😉

At the start of Pride month too

BBCPolitics What a p**ck

RogerGodsiff do you think discrimination of people based on there sexual oritation is okay then? As that is what those school protesters are protesting for.

Surly if parents don’t want their children to be taught this at a early age they are in their rights shouldn’t the school be teaching education such as Maths English and other subjects that will help them in future test that they will have to take?

BBCPolitics This is getting ridiculous. Kids deserve to know what kind of relationships exist in the big wide world. Parents have the opportunity but not the right to twist the minds of their children behind closed doors which will happen in this case anyway!

I think it would make more sense to teach things as dementia, Alzheimers, stroke, deafness, alkoholism, diabetes and resuscitation

A brighter future under Labour......

What does this ‘tweet unavailable’ message mean? Who has censored them?!

Err you what now

Well done. Lets do away with all this LGBT nonsense.

Labour MP panders to voting demographic... what a shock

This is totally out of control there not teaching kids sex there giving children an understanding that some other children have two mummy’s or daddy’s what is the problem with that shame on the MP for adding fuel to the fire.

Idiot

Once again Labour are on the wrong side of history.

Way to go dick... still in touch then... just what UKLabour need to keep then on the dullest cutting edge of modern life..! ...oh sorry... is it roger..?

So disappointed in RogerGodsiff. As a Labour MP, I would have expected him to fully support equalities education. Perhaps he believes that some are more equal than others. So sad, he could learn a lot from his colleague jessphillips

BBCPolitics They don't like gays this is what it's about

I’m afraid Britain will have a shrinking population the way LGBT is being shoved in old and young faces. It’s not acceptance it’s encouragement.

They are just afraid that implementing this at such young age is not educating about acceptance since kids are usually accepting anyways, however pushing kids to become more likely to be gay/transgender.

He’s entitled to his opinion just as the PARENTS of their own children who aren’t being homophobic.

Think you should just let kids be kids for gods sake sick and tired of this LGBT ( if your gay your gay, if your not your not) JUST GET ON WORLD!!!

As a primary school teacher there are key facts that need to be highlighted 1) 'sex ed' at their age is simply about families and relationships ie families can have 0,1 or 2 mums/dads 2) schools teach about the society in which they live, it is legal so it's taught. And 3)..

BBCPolitics another reason why big parties have to go everywhere on earth, they are corrupt to the bones, they even sell 5 years old kids against gay people votes.

Labour. Say no more looking for Muslim vote not the true British persons common sense.

that s how labour got in at Peterborough.bent postal votes

only people who vote Labour are rich leftys dole wallers or Muslims

Keeping the core Labour vote on side ..

How is reading a story about two daddy penguins age-inappropriate? I wonder if this MP has ever met a child.

Ugh

Someone wants votes

Bloody hell, a labour MP coming out with that shite? Expected of the conservatives who are full of hate and bile.

Do us a favour and tell him he’s wrong.

BBCPolitics They don’t want their kids knowing about this stuff yet they have been stood outside the school shouting about it for weeks

BBCPolitics Is the school curriculum teaching about gay sex? Then no, I don't think it should be taught (yet!) However, if it's teaching that all couples should be treated as equal, regardless of their gender and sexuality then hell yes! Get that message out there and earlier the better!

Is that MP crazy? Looking for votes? Walkers get all system changed, can take walk back

He knows which side of the voting fraud fence, his bread gets buttered. Play the appeasement game wins every time until they have enough numbers to force their own MP in.

What happened to freedom of speech

BBCPolitics Another morally bankrupt charlatan jumping on the bandwagon to condemn a school for simply following government instructions

BBCPolitics What?

Disgusting. I hope he gets ousted in the next election. How is this ok in 2019?

BBCPolitics So he wants to get the Tory members vote for leader too.

And you thought labour supported you, oh how wrong you are

Regurgitate this story in Pride month to outrage the easily outraged we get it BBC you are virtue signaling your little socks off.

BrexitAssembly Of course, he does. Labour must pander to Islam in every constituency. You want gay prejudice, it's yours, you want FGM, cut away, fancy grooming, we'll look the other way. 5 million Muslims block voting and they'll be a labour government.

BBCPolitics Old news. Said this weeks ago.

Correct✅ A thousand reasons why, but too many have been brainwashed to listen why🤦‍♂️

I hate the way they call this “LGBT” teaching. They are simply teaching that people come from all backgrounds and that it doesn’t change the person, and to treat everyone with kindness and respect. What’s wrong with that?

Primary school children should be allowed to enjoy their innocence and childhood. There is plenty of time for them to learn the facts of life when they reach teenage years and when they are old enough to make their own judgements.

Law is law. If they don't like it Tough . We have these laws to stop discrimination against the people. Unfortunately the parents think they are above Law. They are not. If they dont like our fair laws. They can leave and live in a different country.

So he encourages hate speech does he !!

BBCPolitics LGBT and Jewish? You’re in trouble 😊😎

Hold on. Its every persons right to have views. As long as they don't involve promoting violence. We are told by the government that our religious beliefs, political views etc.. shouldn't be held back. He's allowed to say it.

BBCPolitics 'We want freedom, we want tolerence, we must be agreed with or else....and to get it we'll be relentlessly intolerant, seek to bar your right to dissagree & make every attempt to silence your opinion' Thus says the intolerant, bigoted, hate filled left, free speech not allowed!

It seems like the LGBT can't understand why anyone would have values different than theirs. That used to be called a narrow minded bigot.

These people are defending against an erosion of the family,this education is nothing more than a far left disintegration of family values and ideas. Man plus woman equals family,its the fabric of society and your trying to destroy it.Sexuality is not taught its learnt as we grow

What a plum ! Should someone tell him it's 2019, not 1919 !

Would it be “just cause” if I demonstrated outside a Mosque, Temple, Church or Synagogue and told them all they were evil, wrong, wicked for teaching children to love one another? Oh wait a minute, that’s the core message!!

Great, more bigots in our parliament.

BBCPolitics He’s just an MP, which doesn’t make his views right. Just a bigot who doesn’t deserve the attention you’re giving to him nor the people’s support who elected him.

Too much shite in this post and not getting to the point. I git bored reading it

Spot on....

What has owenjones84 got to say about this? Oh nothing, he's a Labour MP, so it doesn't count 🙄

Hmmm... Instead of being inclusive, Labour just wants to make the Muslim community happy? Wow.

BBCPolitics Stop teaching kids this absolute nonsense. They are bains. Let them be kids before force feeding anything about relationships🙈 let them have a bit fun before brain washing with confusion. 🤬🤬🤬

BBCPolitics Roger Godsniff is a coward taking the least line of resistance when he should be acting from principle and supporting this school and LGBT education for children against the bigoted ignorance of parents who wish to abuse their children by denying them knowledge and understanding

Thinking about the make up of his voters isn’t it

BBCPolitics and by extension the couple attacked in London are wrong

Wants the Muslim vote .

BBCPolitics Truly sad that such a prejudiced view can be taken by a party member that seeks to be part of the Government of the UK. It highlights what a bigoted bunch of people they are. Antisemitic and now homophobic supporters. Far Left or Far Right? Who are the real Fascists?

This in the same week that we saw two women minding their own business being battered by homophobic young people. Guess Labour's equality values are dictated by who bullies them most.

He’s a bigot... voting record proves that!

Oh dear: ''Some people have used the dispute at Anderton Park School as a means of trying to portray it as a clash between the LGBT community and Muslim culture because they have their own agendas. Not only is this totally untrue but it is contemptible.''

BBCPolitics Labour MP abandoning all principles to protect his block vote.

He's left it too late. Shoulda come out sooner.

Is the teaching part of the National curriculum? If it is good enough for the DofE then it stands - protesters should put their complaints in writing to the DofE for consideration not cause distress outside a primary school.

What a complete TWXT oooo this is labour plugging for votes again appeasing certain members of the public

I watched the tv programme on animal homosexuality and it said that it was not suitable for children under 16 yet we are trying to teach 8 year olds the same stuff basically. When I was 8 I was more interested in conkers and monster cards.

IncMonocle Tfw when you're a socially liberal party but rely on a Muslim bloc vote

He so desperately wants his votes......but doesn't understand the law. Also, who is speaking for the rights of same-sex parents in these schools? Statistically, there's bound to be quite a few.

LGBT Labour

You're right, in that, you have the gift of protest in this country, where people have died to maintain that gift .That gift also pertains to the rule of law, which protects the school curriculum without recourse to individual morals and indoctrination.

BBCPolitics Awful MP

BBCPolitics Keep sex education out of schools up to parents.

Of course he’s Labour 😂

BBCPolitics Not surprised given his voting record

BBCPolitics Two possibilities here: 1) He actually agrees with the protestors and is therefore a massive arsehole 2) He doesn’t agree with the protestors but wants their vote next election and is therefore a massive arsehole.

Couldn’t agree more. I will decide when it is appropriate for my little one to be infected with this subject matter. Go out and play!

Screw equality screw diversity, homophobes rule. Dinosaurs are back in fashion. Ashamed that a Labour guy is the culprit

Nobody is allowed to hold unpopular views or disagree with the moral minority. Any disagreement will be severely punished by order of the people's army of political correctness.

another example of Labour..the party of hate

BBCPolitics Corbyn hates the Jews, this chap hates Gay people. UKLabour only seems to like a few people

Well done Roger. Don’t be frightened by the powerful LGBT lobby. This isn’t about hating Homosexual people. It’s your choice. But you cannot force your values on everyone else. You are free to do as you like. Don’t force your values on us let alone our children.

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IDIOT

They are right, it’s worrying that the authorities are so determined to force this stuff on our children at such a young age.

An example of a total ignorant

RogerGodsiff and that’s why those two innocent girls got battered on a bus by thugs because you don’t support tolerance but you are ok in siding with a load of ignorant intolerant cretins

Support for homophobia from Labour as well as antisemitism.

No they are not right. If anyone else were protesting that were not Muslim this man would not have taken any notice and said. - I'm afraid that's what is going to be taught & there is nothing more we can do. This I'm afraid is how it is and it does get me down.

The tolerant, democratic Nation that Britain is, is this individual (who I neither support or oppose) not entitled to his opinion.

The protesters are right, the kids are far to young to learn about lgbt, the Muslims are wrong in believing it should not be taught at all as their religion has some outdated barbaric beliefs...no one is going to win this one

Yes, the parents should get the right to choose if their kids are in the classes. No, it should not be removed from the curriculum.

They are not right. They are promoting ignorance and division and the fact they are doing so in the name of religion doesn’t make it justifiable.

twatalert

I'm ashamed he's a Labour MP. Wrong side of history!

Geriatric point of view.

Homophobic MPs like that dinosaur should stand down. Would he say that to the faces of the women in the homophobic bus attack? Would he phuk!

Resign you cretin. Labour a laughing stock.

Yup he’s right

worried about his vote

Many of them DO have a just cause (looking out for their kids). This doesn't mean to say people necessarily agrees with the conduct of all such protestors ⚖

If you oppose inclusive teaching of children you’re on the wrong side of history. If you teach children it’s ok to discriminate based upon gender or sexuality then homophobia and transphobia will never be eradicated.

Labour, prostrating themselves on a prayer mat near you.

Surely he jests?

If hes wrong, What right do parents have then?

He must be lookong to be re elected

/ Just what this Secular Schools right now ? Maybe Birmingham Council could explain to this MP the rights & wrongs ?

They are right but not for the right reason..LGBT storybooks are totally inappropriate for prepubescent Primary kids...but that's not the reason for the Muslim protest, which is clearly anti gay.

Labour that.

jeremycorbyn Is this in line with your policies on LGBT rights?! KickHimOut StopHomophobia

People are gay. Get over it.

Well done him. The state has increasely encroached on parental prerogatives.

From Anti-Semites to Homophobes to Convicted Criminals, the Labour Party really has become a BroadChurch under Corbyn’s tenure.

could someone explain to me why we are teaching primary school kids about SEX?,or have i missed something,they are kids.

They are fetching wrong!

It was a homophobe in the Labour Party who led to me leaving it eleven years ago

Absolutely. The indoctrination of mental illness being imposed on the most vulnerable in society is sickening. Totally agree.

The books are about equality, something close to all our hearts, Moslem or Christian

Well done to him

Can't upset the voters, they're keeping him in a job

Wow, baning protests and prosecuting wrongthinking MPs is so democratic. Thank you, BBC, very cool.

It's almost as if someone says ''the labour party couldn't screw up anymore'' Before one labour member says ''hold my beer''.

👍🏻 No need to push this to children.

😂😂😂 and the Winner of the identitarian olympics is..........the local Muslim community led by a guy who doesn’t even have a child at the the school.

Kick. Him. Out.

Labour are an embarrassment.

Fucking dinosaurs. Get rid of them all

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