To fix SA we need leaders who aren’t just in it for themselves

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Bonang, a very warm welcome to you. This is what I find interesting. Originally, I’m told, you wanted to be a medical doctor, so I’m thinking it’s fair to say that fixing things is probably in your DNA. So take me into your private-sector experience and give me a sense of what you’ve done there that could be replicated as far as the bigger build for South Africa is concerned.

So it’s between those two extremes that we need to find ourselves, as a people with great natural endowments. We need to realise that the solutions are within us. They’re not without us; they’re not exogenous, they’re internal. We look back on 30 years of being free, and yet out of 60.02 million South Africans, half of us live below the poverty data line.

Maybe, just maybe, they’re in it for themselves. Maybe, just maybe, this notion, the slogan every five years as we stare the seventh administration in the eye – that ‘a better life for all’ actually means a better life only for elected officials, not for us janitors. Maybe, just maybe, even the people that are in administration now are just as rotten to the core.

We get hit by Covid. The R500 billion response, the socioeconomic response to this pandemic to save lives – and livelihoods ends up being stolen. Even PPE that is meant to protect us from the devastation of this virus gets looted. JEREMY MAGGS: Alright, you’ve raised the issue of disparity, and I understand that. How do you close the gap then?

Every country in the world, once they capture the tourists, their number increases. Ours has decreased.JEREMY MAGGS: I don’t want to go down this rabbit hole, though, but one of the reasons why that graph is splitting, as you put it, is that we have the problem of rampant crime and corruption. Australia doesn’t. We are not a desirable, safe place to go to. That’s the problem with tourism.

Number one on that at least has to be transformation, because this country must look like us. This economy must look like us. Secondly, ethical leadership. Number three, good governance. Number four is about service delivery because that’s the job description of these politicians.

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