Independent TDs propose cap on number of Ukrainian refugees

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Immigration policy ‘reckless’ given pressure on housing, health and education sectors, say two TDs in southwest

Independent TDs Danny Healy-Rae and Michael Collins said that with so much capacity gone from the tourist sector in accommodating refugees, the key industry for the southwest was suffering. Photograph: Nick BradshawTwo Independent TDs in the southwest have suggested a cap should be put on the number of Ukrainian refugees coming to Ireland amid concerns over the strain on health services and tourist accommodation.

With so much capacity gone from the tourist sector in accommodating refugees, the key industry for the southwest was suffering, the TDs added. “Does anyone seriously think that we can go on to accommodate and provide decent services if the number of those fleeing Ukraine and arriving here rises to 100,000?” the TDs asked.

Both are part of the rural Independents group that includes, among others, Mattie McGrath and Carol Nolan, two TDs whorecently over suggestions of a cap on refugee numbers.

 

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Ive a better idea, let Ukrainians in and send these halfwit TDs over to Ukraine in return, thereby keeping net numbers down..

They say Irish welcome all Ukraine refugees! Welcome does not mean give them your house, money, and job making you the refugee living homeless. Why were other people from lybia, Iraq, and Africa brought in with them? House Irish not everyone else👎

Maybe the USA etc should send back all the illegal (or 'undocumented') Irish people in their countries first then we'll see... 😳

The Brussels Times would be more apt. No media outlet has done more to undermine the Irish state and values then the Times

I hope the Irish support these 2 TDs who are who are the only ones who are talking sense

Thank god someone does

Put it two a referendum, o wait they did that for the citizenship referendum in 04 bad idea,🤔

Maybe thr Brother will lend them his cap ! 🤔

Is there a housing shortage?

Agree

We should cap the Healy-Raes!

But refugees are like tourists. Walk around do nothing , take pictures go to restaurants. 🤣🤣🤣

Most politicians and media are out of touch with what sensible Irish people have known for a while. Seeking approval from the Woke, rather than good policy, drives the current regime.

ReferendumToLeaveEU

Well done, common sense.

Close to 12,000 people in Direct Provision seeking International Protection. Vast majority are Economic Migrants coming from 'safe countries' that pose no danger to the applicants. Ireland becoming the country of choice since UKRwandaDeportationInitiative

No. of people claiming international protection has increased significantly with 4,896 applications made to the end of May 2022 according to the DeptJusticeIRL Represented a 700% increase on the same period in 2021 and a 164% increase on the same period in 2019 - the last year

McEntee HMcEntee needs to be removed & replaced as Minister for Justice. She's clearly unfit for the ministerial role, playing fast & loose with our Immigration policies. She's effectively implemented an Open Border/Mass Immigration free for all, to the detriment of Ireland.

Lads - cop yourself on - Ukrainians don't want to be here - but need somewhere safe until putin & russia are defeated.

It’s like the palace of Versailles. Complete bullshit this so called war. Boris Johnson walked around Ukraine in the suit, yet he walked around Manchester with a stab vest on. Send them all home.

Especially since Kiev seems to be the most happening place to be right now and other parts of Ukraine have lots of hotel availability.

I propose a mass deportation. 800+ properties for rent in Ireland. Where are the irish supposed to live? Pathological altruism is killing us.

danny_healyrae Can he display his ignorance in any greater manner,by trying to stop the magnificent humanitarian work been done by Irish people & the Government.While hotels in Kerry fleece visitors with €400-€500 nightly room charges.

We should be doing what we can for Ukraine but also need to be realistic. Independents as usual talk the most sense.

Where have they been since February?

I think we need to cap independent TDs

Well given that Ireland is 84,000 square Kms and the part of the Ukraine that is not a war zone is 500,000 square Kms it would make more sense to send refugees there than have them go to Ireland.

And ! Someone has to call it

Could we put a cap on the number of people in Ukraine the Russian army can murder first? Just wondering...

We have already gone well past any reasonable cap; but this is a religious issue to this leftist cult.

There right

Totally agree.....

Shameful and selfish

How about stopping the energy companies from increasing prices? Wouldn’t it be fabulous if our government actually did something for the population for a change 🤨

Cant house our own and make It impossible To get a affordable house to buy or get mortgage in this shit Hole

closetheboardersnow.

Sensible politicians 👍

I have never seen them advocate for mass housing for our own. But when refugees come, it's an issue. Sad to see.

Good for them.

Shouldve been done a long time ago

Good for them, real issues need to be brought into view, the government and rte and thee irish times are paralyseď and unable to do this even though it is their job. Independant reprresentation is what we desperately need now.

IT really is just a sad rag these days.

Ukraine is not safe. I met many Ukrainians in a B&B in Glencolumbkille. They are wonderful people. Ireland can do more. It can cope 💕

When I was in school in the 1980’s it was married women taking the jobs on the young ones. In college a cie worker was blaming Protestants and Jews. Yes again the 1980’s northwest Ireland. Then the polish Lithuanians. Now asylum seekers and Ukrainians. It’s never the reason.

All countries need caps on immigration. Might not be popular but can’t expect a country the size and resource profile of Ireland to basically absorb another population overnight.

We have a life boat designed for 100 there are 50 in it already and there are 200 who need to be rescued What do you do?

I haven't seen that many ukrainians. I saw a lot who claim to come from Ukraine, but they didn't look slavic...

In other news independent TDs propose: Speed limits on roads Passenger limits on busses Liquid limits in pint glasses Spending limits on paupers 🙄

200,000 divided by 0 available homes gives what exactly? This is a NATO driven war. Yet Ireland are taking more than NATO countries and offering up our neutrality (your sons and you). Ireland should be promoting peace but we are funding weapons (Coveney).

Absolutely the worst type of people who see people running away from war zone as the problem and drum up xenophobia.

Can we propose a cap on independent T.D. s ?

Amen.

Is it because they don't hire plant machinery?

I Am Alright Jack,Independant TDs worried about Braviest Nation in the World EVER, Ukraine,Refugees, Their Male Relatives Fighting the now Biggest Terrorist Cowardy Regime in the World, Destroying Civillians,Should we not put a CAP on T Ds,Milking the Country on Expenses.

MariaLaoise Good to know we still have a few sane TDs. The rest are nuts!

Since no one in Russia or the West has the Balls to Destroy The Sicko Adolf Coward Vermin the Second, The least we can do is not, a Hundred Thousand Welcomes, But Unlimited, Unconditional, Welcome to our Ukranian Sisters and Brothers, who are Fighting Our Corner.

Should be a cap on amount of times there let speak

What about a cap on Healy Raes?

Ireland [population 5.1m] has taken taken 40,302 compared to UK [68m] 86,600.

Round of applause for someone with a bit of logic👏👏

If we had enough housing for everyone then fine we can welcome as many people to live here but unfortunately we don’t.

There are 35MM Ukrainians... There HAS to be a limit.

Cap Ukrainian refugees? So basically they want us to decide who lives and who dies. Yes we should curb immigration but not for people fleeing war zones.

About time Look after our own 1st

Some people can be so ignorant and have no shame

*all refugees and asylum seekers.

It's depressing that even this modest common sense measure will get absolutely nowhere in Leinster Dosshouse.

Good.

Heroes

LizaRutherford7 Why not a cap on refugees?

When you don't have houses to house your own population, then bringing in a sizeable group from another country and housing them is going to cause resentment, anger and social unrest. It's not racist/xenophobic to say this, it's common sense! Cap it now.

Pissing myself laughing at most of the people that are afraid to use their real names while calling for a cap in Ukrainians coming into the country.Cowards can write what they want but havnt the courage to put their names to it.Ashamed of their family names?

I propose a cap on their bald heads

Why is this given “air time”? They know that that proposal is not feasible because it is against EU law/rules. They are simply spouting to be seen, by a certain minority, to be “doing something”. The Ukraine is in turmoil and although there are several issues out there in need of

I wouldn't have a big problem with Ukranian refugees but I do with the numbers we are letting in who will contribute nothing to society or Ireland. I would expect Irish leaving here to contribute to the country they land in. We are a soft touch

Well no shit lol A country the 10th the size of Ireland and with 10 times the population. Pretty sure we should have a cap on that

Thank god someone has sense

About time someone got sence, but I won't hold my breath as it just one big pantomime in the daily, 'oh no you won't, oh yes we will'

The nation can't afford this. Plus, it is a scam

Michael54325847 Brave men to actually voice this opinion. Sensible. But they’ll surely be shouted down by the government who are all crawling up to the EU looking for well paid cushy numbers when they lose their seats. They will all lose their seats. They care about everyone except their own.

The Enlightened One, God help us

It’s far too late. They’ve literally the country destroyed.

They have been housed in social housing on southern cross road in bray ,

Ukraine the illusion hotels are open for business there beaches are full ones here going back on holiday they should be returned home now English consulate gone back in there and to top it off u have stars going weekly

Thank god for rural Ireland 🇮🇪

About time. Can’t provide adequate housing and healthcare to Irish taxpayers let alone take an unlimited number of refugees let alone the influx of so-called refugees from the enormous continent of Africa who find their way across the world to tiny Ireland.

The independent TD's are right!DarraghOBrienTD

Pair of Uncts

Independent TDs can see their route to re election

A broken clock is right at least once a day.

A cap is common sense otherwise we'll end up with camps and all sorts of criminality and be powerless to do anything about it because that's be 'racist'.

Tell you what, take a poll if you’re brave enough and see how many people agree with these Independents.

Love to see a cv from either of them.

Wtf?! Someone in politics with a brain? 😯😯

Imagine the outrage if someone called for a cap on the EU subsidies.

Common sense

Also known as being clever. We can't house half of Ukraine. This government is dangerously inept

Any chance of putting a cap on these 2 😏

Absolutely 100% correct

We need a cap end of. If it’s more Ukrainians it should be less of others. We have a crippling personal taxation system which pays for all this

Proper order Ireland does not have unlimited resources.

Common sense really

Ireland's services are stretched to breaking point. Ukrainians are now sleeping on hotel floors, homelessness is massively increasing. All those big hearted do-gooders crying to take in huge numbers.. take them into your own homes and support them with what you have.

every sane person is thinking this

Still awaiting our Ukrainian guests so nowhere near any sort of cap in what we can deal with.

The brain trust right there

Kilgarvan socialist. More for me.

Lots of air B&B advertised in Ukraine - why are their own people not housed in own country 🤷‍♀️

3 billion euro put aside in next year's budget for provision for Ukrainian refugees. How are we going to house educate provide health care for these people ? I haven't seen one POLITICIAN calling for peace ceasefire etc.

Too right , we're being taken for mugs.

Certainly need a cap each to cover the bald patches

About fukkin time someone put a stop to the nonsense

Racists gotta racist.

Finally sense is starting to prevail..

Record housing lists, record homeless, record hospital waiting lists. People leaving in their droves again. Ahhhhh shurrye let's bring more people in. Ireland is rapid becoming a third world country again

They can smell a lot of votes in this one

It's an unpopular opinion but.........

The percentage change in population make up in Ireland must be one of the most drastic of any country ever. There will be an undermining of culture moorings if it goes unchecked.

On ALL migrants would be prudent.

Disgraceful.

Before the Great Hunger it's said that the population was above 7Million and we still managed to feed ourselves and Britain. Being the Breadbasket off the Empire.What if the Diaspora was still here. Those two Gobshites would most likely been heard off.

It’s too late now!! Why didn’t you have the cop on to do this earlier. Anyone with a brain cell could see there is not enough accomodation and economic migrants are just taking the pi$$! Even the Ukrainian who moved over from NY and got a rent free unit in Dublin! 🤷🏼‍♀️

The head on them two egits…

Send them all home, politician's and celebrities can holiday in Ukraine no need to be spending tax payers money any longer, Bye Bye. 😉

Leftist MSM simply doesn’t like rural independent TDs, especially since they’re the only ones offering logical solutions & common sense.

Common sense really

Four tweed caps between the lot of them? Two from Danny, two from Michael?

The Ukrainian people are being murdered and raped by the Russians and these guys are playing parish pump politics if they wanted they could have a seat at government but its a hell of a lot easier being a hurler on the ditch taking responsibility for nothing

Some needs to be done, immigration is out of control.

I think we should have a Cap on the amount of international Tourists to Kerry. There's Never enough reasonable priced Affordable Accommodation.Most are on minimum earnings.

Ireland needs a cap on immigration, including asylum seekers.

Aaahhh so its really about when concerns for tourism income Trump humanitarian concerns during a barbaric war on our own continent. What statesmen we possess at National Parliament level. SmallMinded ParishPump Gombeens 🥔 BigPicture StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦🇮🇪🇪🇺 DemocracyVsEvil

The absolute state of these two. A couple of grubby gombeen grifters happy to play to the LCD & appeal to worst of human character. Anything to stay on the gravy train, what a disgrace. The worst of the country in one photo.

About time and turf the immigrants out while yer at it...

Bit late now 🙄

To all the bleeding hearts, the area of ukraine occupied by Russia is about half the size of ireland, when ukraine is about 8 times the size of ireland so plenty of room to move to different area of ukraine! I mean celebrity's flying in to meet zelensky ffs!

Should be a cap on all refugees

A country with a pre-war population in excess of 40 million, and a receiving country of 5 million. Of course there should be a cap. Absolutely ridiculous this is even viewed as controversial by some people. IrelandIsFull

100% correct we are being taken for fools .

Two gombeens!! They'd sell their own mother if there was a quid in it. As for the usual 'Patriot' Ireland for the Irish, pro-life, anonymous accounts cheering them on, we expect nothing else.

Better get used to independents ,there's going to be many more of them after the election .

Same should go for the endless string of asylum scammers from Africa.

Should have been proposed before now

Michael54325847 Is it just me or has IT deliberately chosen a bad photo of these lads to smear them because they are proposing a refugee policy that this paper doesn’t like

A pair of wretches and there are more of them. Clearly they see votes in this nastiness

Independents are the only politicians that haven't sold out our country

I know the picture wasn't picked by accident but talk about duelling banjos 😬 deliverance

Lots of bleeding hearts on here just calling names. Debate the issue, how in the name of sweet jesus can the number be limitless, considering the mess FFG have the country in, not least housing?

Michael54325847 🤖🤖🤖 are out in force on the comments here

ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!!

If they were non white would he do the same , why pick on a country with EU membership pending ?

They are apparently 'pro life' Figures that they want to pick and choose who it applies to. 🙄

Did anyone not have 'forced birthers turn out to be racist' on their bingo card.

This shouldn't even be controversial. IrelandIsFull

All around the world we have Irish migrants welcomed - by multiple countries - these 2 clowns couldn’t come up with a solution , so their answer is just stop accepting the refugees , easy Peasy problem go away - nimbyism for refugees.

40 thousand than should of been left in here

Nothing like stoking up a wee touch of racism for the type of character that puts a mark next to these guys names on a ballot paper. You know the sort yourself.

Well it's kinda makes sense doesn't it

A bit of common sense 👍

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