The ban has prompted Sikh charity Turbans4Australia to seek legal advice about whether it could amount to religious discrimination.
The ban will remain in place while a review takes place, she said, which will “consider options for communities who carry a knife for genuine religious purposes”. “We were shocked,” he said. “We had been in consultation with our community, trying to hold meetings [with the department] to try and work out what can be the positive outcome.“It is not just a kirpan, it is the whole identity and the whole principle of baptism that is linked to the personality of a baptised Sikh. It is an honour to wear it. The kirpan is not a weapon.”
Amar Singh, the president of Turbans4Australia, said the Sikh community had been discussing the issue with the Department of Education for 10 days since the incident which sparked the ban, and there had been no mention of a ban. “The community was willing to discuss alternatives that would allow students to observe their religion, such as daggers that could not be removed from their sheath, or mock daggers. We are proud of our culture, our religion, we don’t want this tarnished image,” he said.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker They are still allowed in niteclubs , planes etc maybe focus on the adults who are allowed to carry.
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Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker What’s the data say? How many deaths involving a kirpan in the past 24 hours/days/months/years? Were deaths BY kirpan or WITH kirpan?
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker No weapon. Simple! Nothing to discuss. Not happy with our country than options are open for them.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Can I carry my religious gun on to a plane
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker We are in secular nation. Public organisations shouldn’t pander to religious beliefs, IMHO.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Is this for real BaazNewsOrg PunYaab jasveermuktsar
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker These are lethal weapons in the hands of children. Teenagers. Have we gone completely mad. Have your religion, customs etc. but keep them at home. Respect for all people please
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker I’m an Indian and I’m totally against kids carrying knives to school. Doesn’t matter what kind of stupid beliefs these are. The religion created based on warriors group and they Carried knives all the time in 15th century. It’s no longer required or appropriate in this period.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker It isn’t meant to be an offensive weapon, but it has now been used used as one & can be used again. So what’s the problem if the govt. is proactive & nipping it in the bud ? After all this is the NSW & not the India.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker A few years ago student stabbed compass in neck of other student, it's doesn't mean school must impose ban on compass. Pen can be a weapon. It's depend on use.. mostly, baptised in Sikh way person does not taken out small ceremonial dagger ( Sri shaib) easily from its cover.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Some groups are very stubborn. This is Australia and we don't allow anyone to carry knives even symbolic ones esp. those potentially dangerous. I repeat, you are not in a second India but Australia. We are tolerant but not beyond a certain point.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Are suicide vests allowed too? That's religious paraphernalia as well.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Students are going to school to study not to do something with any kind of knife
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker If only there was a country where they could fully practice their archaic customs in peace.. 😢
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker The normalization of weapons (a knife is undoubtedly a weapon irrespective of its purpose), under the guise of religious freedom is laughable. The Australian sikh Association really ought to let this one go if they want our support and backing on other topics. auspol australia
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Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Sorry, religious or not they need to be banned, no child's life is worth a religious item. As already proven children cannot be trusted with them. What if dom ed religion was to declare a gun a religious item. Sorry they got to go.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Freedom from religion. I respect your choice to follow your religion, but my kids don’t need exposure to it, particularly when the exposure we’re talking about is the normalization of a KNIFE in publicly funded government schools. There is zero argument for school knives auspol
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Wait till ScoMo & his Pentecostal Liberal Party bring in their Religious Freedom Laws. Something to look forward to 👎
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker What’s interesting is that kirpans have been in schools for 50 years with no problem. This was a reactive edict to Glenwood. Will a stabbing happen again? Likely not. But I still agree that knives shouldn’t be in schools. Many laws are made in reaction to something, anyway.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker If it's used to stab someone irrespective of the circumstances lead up to - it is a weapon.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Tough luck.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker If it's not a weapon why did some kid get stabbed with one?
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker I should imagine the parents of the child, and the child who was stabbed are distraught. A school is no place for weapons, of any kind or for any reason.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker These false religions need banning, not just their whacky paraphernalia.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker How do Sikhs get on when travelling by air? There’s no chance they’d get one of those weapons through security.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker lets ban all religious from public school not just knifes - if you want to teach your child about your flavour of god(s) do it on your time and money
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker you have to be kidding, a knife in the hands of student using religion as the excuse. What a load of utter crap, ban them now !!!
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker looks like a weapon to me...and why is it necessary in schools?
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker my son Kaibel should also be allowed to take his butterfly knife to school. For cultural reason (he likes stabbing other kids)
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Kitchen knives aren't weapons either. It's not a weapon, until it is used as a weapon, then it's too late.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker Firstly, a kid was stabbed with one so that is a weird argument. Weirder argument, that religious beliefs would even come close to trumping a safe secular education...but with ScoMo as PM I can understand the confusion as he has constantly mixed the two worlds of private/public
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Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker A knife, is a knife. No knives at school. Period.
Laura_R_Chung JordsBaker I am very upset. My religion says I should carry this into schools.